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		<title>Millennials Are Trend Bellwethers</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Carol Phillips* At over 80 million strong, Millennials are a consumer market force today and will be even more important in the future. According to Alloy Media, the college market alone is made up of a record 16 million young adults with collective economic power of over $300 billion, $69 billion of which is [...]]]></description>
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<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong><em>By Carol Phillips*</em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">At over 80 million strong, Millennials are a consumer market force today and will be even more important in the future. According to <a href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art_aid=131997" target="_blank">Alloy Media, the college market</a> alone is made up of a record 16 million young adults with collective economic power of over $300 billion, $69 billion of which is discretionary. <em>Y</em>et economic clout is only the most rudimentary reason marketers should be paying attention to this cohort.  Young adults today have greater influence on consumer behavior than their enormous spending power even suggests.</p>
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<p style="text-align: justify;">The main reason Millennials matter to marketers is that they indicate future trends to a greater degree than young adults in the past. Here are a few reasons why:</p>
<ul style="text-align: justify;">
<li>Technology proficiency has empowered Millennials      to weild a disproportionate influence on the culture and on the buying      decisions of other generations.</li>
<li>Millennials are the first to put new technologies      to use to make the most of their media time.</li>
<li>Gen Y’ers are less impulsive shoppers. They place      a priority on experiences rather than possessions, and are more likely to      make every purchase a considered one.</li>
<li>Gen Y’ers also display a distinct generational      “personality” when it comes to responding to marketing programs and      messages. Consequently, push marketing is on its way out, the new      marketing is all about engagement, and much of the shift is due to      Millennials.</li>
<li>Finally, Gen Y cares more about the company      behind the products they buy and the places they work. Corporate branding      and brand architecture are more important than they have been in the past.</li>
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<h3 style="text-align: justify;">Here are a few of the Millennials trends I have been seeing lately.  I wonder how many will move mainstream?</h3>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>1. TV is escaping the home.</strong> Many Millennials are talking about cancelling their cable subscription in favor of seeing shows via their Internet connection or on their mobile devices.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>2. Nostalgia is Cool. </strong>Maybe it started with Toy Story 3 but Millennials are reconnecting with their childhoods.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>3. Facebook Fatigue</strong>. Facebook fatigue has begun, or perhaps there are just better options now for connecting with friends. Long live text! (Until something better comes along).</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>4. Byte Sized</strong>: Posts are shorter. Texts are shorter. No one reads to the end.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>5. Who Needs a Car?</strong> Many are forgoing a car in favor of less expensive and more environmentally conscious transportation.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>6. Let’s Be Spontaneous</strong>! Last minute travel. Last minute dining. Who needs to plan? Text me!</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>What are you seeing? What trends are hot? What else is about to jump the shark? </strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>*Carol Phillips is the president and founder of the brand strategy consulting firm “Brand Amplitude.” She is also a Professor at the prestigious University of Notre Dame. Carol began her career as a market researcher and strategic planner at Leo Burnett. Later, as an Account Director, she led agency teams at four different agencies – Y&amp;R, Leo Burnett, Mullen and JWT – for a variety of clients including Sprint, Nextel, Ameritech, Heinz, 7UP, and Philip Morris. She blogs at <a href="http://www.millennialmarketing.com/" target="_blank">www.millennialmarketing.com.</a></em></p>
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		<title>What’s In It For Me? Engaging Millennials Online</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Carol Phillips* The Internet is a modern day three ring circus: there’s something cool going on everywhere you look. According to Comscore, 45% of all page transitions are ‘link following’. Every web page offers multiple enticements to move on. To create interest, you must say something worth staying with, in other words ‘relevant’. Keeping [...]]]></description>
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By Carol  Phillips*</em></strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The Internet is  a modern day three ring circus: there’s something cool going on everywhere you  look. According to Comscore, <strong>45% of all page transitions are  ‘link following</strong>’. Every web page offers multiple enticements to  move on. To create interest, you must say something worth staying with, in other  words ‘relevant’.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Keeping Gen Y’s  attention in an environment <em>defined</em> by distraction  requires being ‘interesting’.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Gen Y blogger,  <a href="http://twitter.com/megmroberts" target="_blank">Meg Roberts</a>, wrote an article titled  <a href="http://megroberts.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/how-would-i-market-to-myself-marketing-to-gen-y-consumers/" target="_blank">“How I would market to  myself</a>’ in which she offers this  advice:</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">“<em>Focus on adding  value rather than overloading on content. The best way to ensure we’re listening  to your messages is to make them relevant to us.  Learn why we’re in a given  community, whether it’s Facebook or Twitter or an iPhone app, and speak to us  without severely interrupting what we’re doing  .”</em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em></em>Note the words  “<em><strong>without severely  interrupting</strong></em>”. When creating messages for Millennials, it’s  important to ask whether or not the message meet the test of whether it’s worth  interrupting.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><span id="more-781"></span><strong>If a friend  wouldn’t interrupt than a marketer shouldn’t either.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">For Millennials,  interruptions are the height of rudeness. There is a hierarchy of  communications. A phone call is highly interruptive – and it’s little wonder  that Millennials make very few phone calls. Phone calls are reserved for very  important conversations, like telling your parents you need money or will be  traveling to Puerto Rico rather than home for spring break. For less moments  communications, which is to say <em>most</em> communications, they rely on texts.  A teen sends hundreds of texts a day. Texts  are less intrusive than phone calls and yet still has urgency. Email is even  less intrusive than texts. Email is used when a message is not time sensitive or  does not require an immediate response.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>Is it Relevant,  Cool or Exciting?</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Another test for  relevance is whether a communication is ‘<strong>status update  worthy</strong>’. As Gen y marketer and community member, <a href="http://twitter.com/josippetrusa" target="_blank">Josip Petrusa</a>, puts it this  way:</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>“One thing we  love to do is tell the world when something cool, great or exciting is happening  to us. In a sense, we love to brag for attention. You’ll always hear about the  vacation we’re going on, the sports event we’re going to, the movie we’re  seeing, the concert we were at and I could go on and on. Make it something that  will give me a reason to tell everyone else about it. A funny and ridiculous  video-clip, a great experience or something that even seems exclusive, would all  be status update worthy.” </em><em>You have to  reinvent cool, great and exciting.”</em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>What’s In It for  Me?</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">There is a myth  that Millennials don’t like advertising. Actually this isn’t true. They like ads  that are entertaining or funny, especially for brands they already love. They  love the iPad, Axe and current Kindle ads.  These are ads that give back  something in return for attention.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">The Associated  Press (AP), a group with a vested interest in Millennials’ interest in news and  ads, <a href="http://www.niemanlab.org/2010/03/aps-ethnographic-studies-look-for-solutions-to-news-and-ad-fatigue/" target="_blank">released a study </a>in March that looked  at <em>‘news ad  fatigu</em>e’.  The study took an in-depth, ethnographic approach that  focused especially on people 18-34. The research <strong>concluded that consumers are  “</strong><em><strong>tired, even  annoyed, by the current experience of advertising</strong></em><strong>,” </strong>and that, as a  result, “<em><strong>they don’t trust  very much of it</strong></em><strong>“.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Younger  consumers, ages 18-34, <a href="http://millennialmarketing.com/2010/04/millennials-the-new-news-junkies/" target="_blank">want to be in the  know,</a> and two thirds think it’s important  to be among the first to hear news compared with just 10 % of older  people. Millennial consumption of news is actually increasing. According to   McKinsey the average person consumes 72 minutes of news a day, compared with  just 60 minutes in 2006 and the increase was driven almost entirely by people  under the age of 35.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Young adults  have adopted ways of getting their news that are much different from those of  past generations. Younger consumers are not only less reliant on the newspaper  to get their news; they also consume news across a multitude of platforms and  sources, all day, constantly. They also think of each other as their main news  source.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Here’s a  description of how “Mark”, a 28-year old manager of an online travel agency  consumes media.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">“<em>Mark’s news  cycle was continuous and he spent up to six hours a day searching for and  receiving information. Mark was on the Internet most of the day and used that  time to keep up to date on news coverage and sports-related information. Mark  liked his news to be “punchy” and pointfocused. He read the headlines followed  up online to “find out what’s happening” with stories that he wanted to track.  Mark’s news consumption was related to other activities that he was engaged in  and although he was actively consuming the news, it was almost always in tandem  with other activities such as driving  or working…</em></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">You may be  surprised to learn,  that brands do not do all that well in social media among  Millennials. Only 12% have ‘friended ‘ a brand on Facebook. Only four brands on  Facebook have more than five million ‘liking’ – only 16 have more than 1.5  million.  22% of Millennial use Twitter, a small number to begin with, but of  those, only 29% follow companies.  Friending a brand is a high hurdle. In terms  of Facebook fans, the numbers are even lower. Just 2 brands have more than 5  million fans on Facebook, Starbucks and Coca-cola.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><strong>So what do they  find relevant?</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">It will probably  come as no surprise that the main reason to join a fan group on Twitter or  Facebook is to get news or discounts. Here according to a <a href="http://www.marketingcharts.com/interactive/socnet-ads-not-relevant-to-81-of-millennials-8200/pmn-pace-university-percent-generation-y-top-5-reasons-join-brand-fan-group-february-2009jpg/" target="_blank">Pace University study are the top reasons to  fan a brand on Facebook: </a></p>
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<li>Getting news or product updates  (67%)</li>
<li>Having access to promotions (64%)</li>
<li>Viewing or downloading music or videos  (41%)</li>
<li>Submitting opinions (36%)</li>
<li>Connecting with other consumers (33%)</li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: justify;">Meg Roberts  concurs. Her blog post, “<a href="http://megroberts.wordpress.com/2009/06/03/how-would-i-market-to-myself-marketing-to-gen-y-consumers/" target="_blank">How I would Market to  Myself”</a>, goes on to offer this advice about   ’free stuff’ and interacting with her favorite brands.</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">“We’re just out  of college.  Loan payments are becoming a harsh reality.  If you want us to try  out your brand, give us some free samples or coupon codes.  Plus, if a company  could build an entire online community based on the loyalty rewards system, I’d  probably check it out to see what other users are saying about new  products/sales/coupons/etc.”</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;">“Don’t use  social media as a billboard but as a telephone. Social media should be an  interactive tool, and when your consumers speak, listen and respond. In my  experience, the most successful Twitter accounts and Facebook fan pages are  those that go beyond simple @replies and wall posts. <strong>Ask questions, get our  feedback, and implement changes.</strong> Everyone likes to have their ego stroked,  right? Brand consumers, especially Gen Y ones, are no different. What feels  better than having a company listen to reasonable, quality recommendations we’ve  made?”</p>
<p style="text-align: justify;"><em>*Carol Phillips is the president and  founder of the brand strategy consulting firm “Brand Amplitude.” She is also a  Professor at the prestigious University of Notre Dame. Carol began her career as  a market researcher and strategic planner at Leo Burnett. Later, as an Account  Director, she led agency teams at four different agencies – Y&amp;R, Leo  Burnett, Mullen and JWT – for a variety of clients including Sprint, Nextel,  Ameritech, Heinz, 7UP, and Philip Morris. </em><em>She blogs at <a href="http://www.millennialmarketing.com/" target="_blank">www.millennialmarketing.com.</a></em></p>
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		<title>The U.S. Census’ Marketing Doesn’t Impress Generation Y</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Guest Blogger</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Grace Boyle* If you know someone who lives in the United States, you should have probably already heard about the 2010 U.S. Census. I felt like a real adult opening the envelope, ready to “offer” my household information, ballpoint pen in hand. Looks like I’m a small percentage of eager participants in my generation [...]]]></description>
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<p><strong><em>By Grace Boyle*</em></strong></p>
<p>If you know someone who lives in the United States, you should have probably already heard about the 2010 U.S. Census. I felt like a real adult opening the envelope, ready to “offer” my household information, ballpoint pen in hand.</p>
<p>Looks like I’m a small percentage of eager participants in my generation this year.</p>
<p>As of March 10th, the struggle the U.S. Census was experiencing especially in the online realm is evident &#8211; they have fewer than 3,000 Twitter followers and 14,900 friends on Facebook.</p>
<p><span id="more-653"></span>Gen Y financial author, <a href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art_aid=124622" target="_blank">Peter Dunn</a> humorously scoffs at the lack of interaction from the Census in his <a href="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&amp;art_aid=124622" target="_blank">MediaPost column</a>, <em>“Are you kidding me? A grilled cheese sandwich with the image of the Virgin Mary has more followers. On top of that, the official U.S. Census website is both aesthetically abysmal and hard to navigate, not to mention that you can’t fill out your Census form online.”</em></p>
<p>Personally, I saw no marketing (to my generation in particular) for the 2010 Census. In fact, I received my form and really was surprised. That’s bad outreach. If they <a href="http://www.marketingvox.com/gen_y_at_forefront_of_online_trends-022309/" target="_blank">knew the statistics for online-use </a>(especially in Generation Y) the Census would make an easy form to fill out, online. It’s painless, environmentally friendly and cost-effective.</p>
<p>The census results are important &#8211; it allows our tax dollars and government programs to reach the right communities, with specific needs gathered from the census. I only know this, because I’ve done my research. Poll a Generation Y group and they might shrug their shoulders or mention,<em> “Why should I fill out the Census form?” </em></p>
<p>I agree with Dunn, that the Census should have focused less on Boomers as engaging Gen Y<em> “will lead to a legion of brand advocates.”</em> The Census is an “uptight” and “stodgy” program already, but anyone knows that properly targeted marketing can create anything to be powerful, exciting and executable.</p>
<p>Looks like the 2010 U.S. Census missed the mark this year with Gen Y. Better luck next year?</p>
<p><em>* Grace Boyle, is a 20-something adventurista. She lives in Boulder, CO and is the Publisher Services Manager for the tech startup, <a href="http://www.lijit.com/" target="_blank">Lijit</a>. She blogs at <a href="http://smallhandsbigideas.com/" target="_blank">Small Hands</a>, Big Ideas and <a href="http://twitter.com/gracekboyle" target="_blank">tweets</a> while she writes about the startup world, relationships, career and daily inspirations.</em></p>
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		<title>An Interview with Carol Phillips</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ines Schinazi</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Ines Schinazi Carol Phillips is the president and founder of the brand strategy consulting firm “Brand Amplitude.” She is also a Professor at the prestigious University of Notre Dame. Carol began her career as a market researcher and strategic planner at Leo Burnett. Later, as an Account Director, she led agency teams at four [...]]]></description>
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<strong><em>By Ines Schinazi</em></strong></p>
<p>Carol Phillips is the president and founder of the brand strategy consulting firm “Brand Amplitude.” She is also a Professor at the prestigious University of Notre Dame.</p>
<p>Carol began her career as a market researcher and strategic planner at Leo Burnett.  Later, as an Account Director, she led agency teams at four different agencies &#8211; Y&amp;R, Leo Burnett, Mullen and JWT – for a variety of clients including Sprint, Nextel, Ameritech, Heinz, 7UP, and Philip Morris.</p>
<p>In an exclusive interview, she shares her thoughts on how the millennial generation is changing the art of Marketing.<br />
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<p><strong>Ines:  On your blog you write about how your interest in the millennial generation began 5 years ago, when they began to enter your college classroom. You explain that it was impossible not to notice how different this generation was. Can you talk about the differences you noticed back then and the differences you see today</strong>?<br />
Carol:  I think one of the first things was that they didn’t deal with ambiguity very well.  They wanted a lot of structure, and they wanted to know exactly how to do it right.<br />
I think one of my blog posts was called “The Professor’s Lament,” and I joked that if you asked them to memorize the alphabet by tomorrow, they would come back and ask you “which alphabet?”  “Do you want it backwards or forwards?”  “Can we sing it?” They need a lot of assurance that they are doing it right.  I also found that I couldn’t make any changes, like I couldn’t say, “Oh, I found a new way to do this…”<br />
I think the biggest surprise was how little they actually knew about Marketing.  I was teaching “The Basics of Marketing.” As the most marketed-to generation, I expected them to be much more sophisticated, and they weren’t, and I found all of this really surprising.  I jotted down some thoughts, and sent them to “Ad Age,” and they published it.  This was in 2006…that was when some of the first articles started coming out about the millennial generation, so I just joined the conversation.</p>
<p><strong>Ines: In your opinion, how should businesses successfully market to the millennial generation? And what exactly does it mean to reach this generation by being “quick,” “meaningful,” and “shiny” as your blog suggests?</strong><br />
Carol:  I didn’t create that set of words, I found it in a Gen Y article by a young Canadian planner, and she’s fine with me using it.  I think that it does kind of summarize what Gen Y is about.  They’re pretty suspicious of advertising and distrustful.  They look at everything with a cynical eye.  They’re much more trusting of information that comes from their friends, or other sources, than they are from advertising.  I think what they don’t realize is that advertising isn’t allowed to lie.  So I think there are some implications there for marketers:  don’t spend a lot of time making elaborate claims. They’re not going to pay any attention to them.  You really want to spend more time building a relationship based on something that matters to them.   And they have a lot of things that matter to them, particularly in the area of “cause marketing.”  That’s what I mean by “meaningful.”  So it’s not only relevant to the product, but also relevant to other things that they’re interested in.   Also, I think I was quoted as saying “There’s a special place in branding hell for brands that say one thing, and do another, with the millennial generation.”  They value authenticity.<br />
When you look at the brands they like, some people are surprised to see they’re the brands that everyone likes:  Apple, Coca Cola, Vogue Magazine.  Well, there’s a reason for that.  These are brands that have a long history of being authentic, and saying what they’re going to do.<br />
As far as the “shiny” part goes, they love things that are flashy and new, like the latest technology, so you don’t want to come at them with the simple, tired, stuff.</p>
<p><strong>Ines: In the article, “Millennials:  Clued in or Clueless,” you find that “…students take it as a matter of faith that advertisements mislead consumers about the truth of a product’s performance…and are all too ready to believe that ads use a host of subliminal messages to improve product perceptions.&#8221;  More so, we know that this generation prefers listening to their peers, rather than relying on a brand, and that they are quite skeptical in general, which is also very clear in your article “What Millennials think of Social Media.”<br />
Are we moving towards a world where it’s more about the &#8220;person&#8221; behind the brand and a sort of “peer-to-peer,” “word of mouth,” marketing?</strong><br />
Carol:  I think it’s always been about the person behind the brand.  I teach my students that your brand has a message, but it also has a personality.  The personality is not what you do, it’s how you do it.  The most important thing with personality is to be consistent.  There’s a great F. Scott Fitzgerald quote, “…personality is nothing other than consistency and gesture.”  And it’s really true.  I think what we’re finding now with the “personalization,” of everything on the web, is that the brands that do have a consistent, recognizable, personality, are the ones that are going to succeed the most.<br />
I had a blog post where I said that one of the reasons brands struggled on Facebook initially, was that they were still behaving like brands instead of a person, and you go to Facebook to learn about people.  So brands needed to talk about the parties they’re throwing, and show pictures, and do things that people do, not talk in terms of “brand talk.”  I think they’re starting to get it, and that’s why Facebook is becoming profitable finally!</p>
<p><strong>Ines:  In the book, “Next:  A vision of our lives in the future,” the authors express a paradox about this generation, characterizing them as individuals who are nostalgic for a past they haven’t lived. This is seen through the ways they cling to old music idols like Mick Jagger and Madonna, or even Michael Jackson. The authors argue that a paradox lies in the way this generation values some things from the past, while completely rejecting other things.<br />
Do you also see this generational paradox?  If so, how does one go about marketing to this ambiguity, thus having to reconcile the past and the future?</strong><br />
Carol:  I watched “That 70’s show” last night with my 15-year-old son. I had never seen it before.  He loves that show.  The 70’s was my childhood, and yet he does relate to that.  I think that with the millennial generation, their values are not any different from traditional values, but they’re more culturally liberal. They still value honesty, creativity, family, and success.  There’s really no difference in terms of what they value.  What they’re doing, is putting a different spin on it.  They’re redefining what success means.  They’re redefining the role of creativity in their lives, of self-expression.  They’re redefining what family means.<br />
I think one of the brilliant things about the “ABC Family Channel” is that it gets that!  If you watch those shows, they’re not the way they were even 3 years ago.  They’re multicultural, they’re dealing with issues that real families are dealing with, and they show multiple generations liking each other!  There’s been a shift. So it isn’t that the values are different, it’s just a different interpretation.</p>
<p><strong>Ines: Where do you think the relatively new art of blogging is headed?  Are blogs a way for companies to speak and advertise to the millennial generation?</strong><br />
Carol: Absolutely.  A lot of millenials blog, but not all of them, but they do read blogs.  There’s a great site, “Brazen Careerist.”  Penelope Trunk is amazing, she’s created a community of Gen Y bloggers, and I think we’re going to see more of that.  Her community is around work, but I think there are other communities that are going to spring up, and are springing up.  I mean, look at “Deviant Art.”  There are communities around cooking, wine, and very specialized interests.  All marketers have to do, is rather than create a community, just join it, join the conversation…</p>
<p><strong>Ines: More and more, we see advertising campaigns that are pretty interactive, like the “T-Mobile sing along.”The consumer becomes a participant, rather than just a passive buyer.  How do you see the role of the millennial consumer evolving?</strong><br />
Carol: I think we are going to see more and more of that.  At first, there were very few campaigns that were participatory like that, now there’s a lot.  Last Christmas, Starbucks did their “Project Red Campaign.” Now we’re seeing a lot of crowd sourcing which is interesting.   Dunkin Donuts had huge success with “Design a Donut.”  I think we’re going to see more and more things like this.</p>
<p><strong>Ines: In Sao Paulo, I’ve recently noticed that there have been a few “temporary stores” opening.<br />
The design is extremely elaborate, and nothing implies that this store would be temporary. Yet, they open with the intention of being open for a couple months, clearly a way to advertise their brand, on a well-known street. Are we moving towards a world that’s like our online world, where things are more and more temporary, including physical stores?</strong><br />
Carol:  I think the Temporary store is a really interesting phenomenon.  I think <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/content/feb2006/id20060214_171142.htm" target="_blank">Jc Penney</a> did it first in Times Square, and they got a lot of attention with that.   It’s a really another form of advertising, it’s just much more experiential.  It’s not cheap but I think it has incredible impact.  It’s a great way to reach young people who aren’t likely to pay attention any other way.</p>
<p><strong>Ines: You talk about how this generation enjoys somewhat sophisticated pleasures, and “living large,” at least in terms of wine and gourmet foods.  This doesn’t seem to change even in a recession. What do you think the desire for these products says about this generation?</strong><br />
Carol:  Well I think it says a lot about the way they were raised.  They grew up in a very economically prosperous time. Their parents were better educated than parents had been before.  They got exposed to very sophisticated things early on, and more of them have traveled.<br />
I think the whole interest in things like cooking, wine, and fashion, is driven partly by self-expression, but also those are things you can share.  They’re incredibly functional.  You can talk about wine, and you can talk about food.  It’s an experience that’s communal.</p>
<p><strong>Ines:  But you also present a paradox. Most of the college students you know, if not all, consider themselves poor, but still indulge in these pleasures.  What are your thoughts on that?</strong><br />
Carol:  I think they do think of themselves as cash-strapped, even the ones who by normal standards are living pretty well.  I don’t think they are ever not going to think of themselves as frugal.  They’re careful shoppers, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t buy things that they perceive as a “need.”<br />
I think that’s the challenge for marketers.  Move things out of that “nice to have” and into the “must have” category.</p>
<p><strong>Ines:  That’s why you also mention that it’s not smart to position your brand as luxury?</strong><br />
Carol:  I don’t think so, though there have been several brands that have been doing just that, and are enjoying some success, so maybe I’m wrong.  The Burberry campaign with Emma Watson seems to be successful.  And a Burberry coat is a luxury, by any standards!  You know, girls want the fancy bags.  How I reconcile that is I think they move that expensive bag into a  “must have” category, so it’s not a luxury for them.  In the same way, that a Mac Book, is a must-have, as opposed to something half the price, which is just as functional.</p>
<p><strong>Ines:  How does your role as a mother and Professor impact, shape, and influence, the work you do? It&#8217;s interesting because both these roles make it so that you&#8217;re very connected to this generation.   Do you see this shaping what you choose to study, and the lens through which you perceive and examine things?</strong><br />
Carol:  Absolutely.  I was putting together a presentation for a major entertainment client. One of the things they commented on, on my draft, is that it pulls on everything.  It pulls on my own experience in the classroom, and with my kids.  It pulls on anecdotal data from Gen Y blogs and Twitter.  It pulls on secondary research, and it pulls very heavily on my own research.  We [Brand Amplitude] do a lot of client work, about the millennial generation for major brands.  Also, we’ve done a lot of studies for ourselves, like the one on social media, and the millennial generation in the workplace.<br />
So I think we’re at the cutting edge of a lot of these things.  And that’s partly because I’ve got my ear to the ground, both personally and professionally.</p>
<p><em>Read more about Carol Phillips: <a href="http://millennialmarketing.com">http://millennialmarketing.com</a></em></p>
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